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Andy Willoughby, Christian Radio Mangosteen Magnate



The mangosteen tree is very slow-growing, erect, with a pyramidal crown...


NOTE: You should probably read this note we received from Andy Willoughby before delving into what I have to say, for the sake of balance. I'm still no fan of the business, but I'm ready to admit Andy means well and deserves a look if you are interested. You may be cut out for work I am simply not cut out for.


Well Hi-Diddly-I there neighbor! How's yer young'ns and yer old Gra-maw?

I'm guessing you want to know more about that Andy Willoughby and his Three-Step Plan. Well, you came to the right place.

This is an update to our crazy little post from last year which happens to be the most search-engine-friendly thing we've ever written. Go figure.

I'm glad to see ya'! But enough glad-handin' and grinnin' - let's get down to business.

So you've heard Andy Willoughby's commercials on your local Christian radio station, the ones where he asks "How in the world are ya' anyway?" and offers a plan for financial independence.

You're probably wondering, "What it this all about?" Well, let me tell you.

Ultimately, it's about getting into what used to be known as 'Multi-Level Marketing' (MLM) but is now called 'Network Marketing.' It's the same concept used to sell Amway-Quixtar, Noni Joice and a host of other products.

While the links above are not the most flattering, and the spectre of a 'pyramid scheme' hovers over the entire enterprise, please be aware this is the same sales structure employed to sell Mary Kay Cosmetics, Tupperware (in the old days) and countless other products on which plenty of people have made real money. The basic idea is, you become a distributor of the product(s), then you try to get other people to become distributors - while constantly trying to get all of them to recruit more distributors and all of THEM and to do the same, and so on until you have a massive 'downline' of sellers beneath you. You make money on the sales of everyone in the downline. If you get enough people beneath you, it can mean some serious cash.

Hey, there is a subculture of stay-at-home-moms who live for this stuff.

Depending on your recruitment philosophy, network marketing can also alienate you from all your acquaintances, workmates, friends, family...in fact, every single person on the Earth. It just depends on how you play it.

You're probably thinking, "That sounds pretty good to me," but also wondering, "What happens if I check it out?" Well, chances are, you'd be receiving a phone call from a gal or a fella' working off a script that would go something like this:


Hello John

(not 'may I speak to John Doe please' -sounds too much like a telemarketer)

Hey [John], This is [Your Name] calling you from GA - the reason I am calling is that you responded to the Andy Willoughby three step program that you heard on the radio – Do you remember doing that?

They Respond - YES

So you are looking for a way to make money from home?

Great, well tell me what you do for a living now?

(Develop small talk and friendly rapport) i.e.- how do you like that – how long you been doing that?

Well, that is fantastic – let me give you my home office number.

Next, qualify them with this statement

Now, John I do want you to know that this is a real business and as such it does require an investment – Now we are not talking about $5000 or even a $1000 dollars, but realistically to get your business started properly you are going to need at least $400-$500 dollars to do that.

Now once you look at everything here assuming this is something that you like and something that you are going to want to do, is that going to be a problem?

PAUSE and see there answer and then go from there

(They agree and they have the funds)

Great what I want to do at this point is have you listen to an overview that will explain in detail just how this program works. Do you have about 7 minutes to do that?

Bring on the 7 minute overview call.

John, that was really exciting wasn’t it?

Let them answer 'YES' question (You may also have another way to put this in a different tone that best fits your personality – i.e – John, that was some great info wasn’t it?

John, What did you like best about it?

Whatever they respond with (product, how we build the business) you agree with and you may what to say you know what John I felt the same way.

John, Does this look like something you would want to do?

They say yes then sign them up

Most will say I would like for info sent over:

Great, John –Fantastic – that is what I would do – I would want to get all the info I can. Here is what will do – John, what is your email address – I am going to get you an email out right now with a website where you can go look at an audio/visual presentation.

So, I will send you out the email with the presentation that you can look at and also John if you are wanting to do your due diligence here you would have to agree that one of the best ways to do your due diligence is to try the product –Since it has a 30 day money back guarantee what do you say why you are looking over whether or not this is a business opportunity that you want to pursue lets go ahead and get a couple of cases of product on the way to you.

THEN SHUT UP!

Not every person will say yes – but you are making the effort to close every prospect twice on the first call.

Most will say 'well let me watch the presentation and review the info'

Ok, John – I will get this email out to you in the next 10 minutes - there is about 30-40 minutes of information there - Now, I am going to be tied up for the next two hours...

(Act like you are looking at your day planner when doing this)

What do you say we get back in touch today – What is better for you 3:30 or 4:00?

Give them two options Not asking them –you tell them to pick a time so you want a decision today

If they cannot get back today

Say, I totally understand

Now, John you did tell me you where serious about starting your own business and there is only about 30-40 minutes worth of information there so you can definitely listen to that in the next 24 hours – So let me look at my schedule for tomorrow (act like you are looking at it) - Looks like I have so and so time available – which is better for you?

Next, John what you are going to go look at (it is called the Millon Dollar Secret presentation) is very detailed and there is really not a question there that is left unanswered so you are really going to know whether or not this is something you are going to do.

Next day call them

What did you think of that MDS presentation – pretty exciting huh?

Yeah, looks great.

Well John, let's go ahead and get you started...

Sign them up or if more questions get upline on the phone to field questions.

Or, you might receive this call:


Hi. Can I speak with ____ please?

Hi _____. This is ____________ calling you from _____. I’m calling because you requested some information about Andy Willoughby’s 3 step program that was advertised on Christian radio. Do you remember doing that?

Am I catching you at a good time? Do you have a few minutes?

So I guess you’re looking to generate some extra income from home?

That’s great. First of all tell me a little about yourself _____, what do you do now? (listen)

And are you looking to supplement or replace your income?

Well, that’s fine. Now if you grab a pen, I’d like to get some information to you. Tell me when you’re ready.

First I want to give you my name. It’s ___________ and my number is__________. I also want you to take down this #.

This is a 5 minute recording that will explain what this is all about. That # is 1-973-854-4579 (Mike’s message)

Do you have access to the internet? If you give me your email address, I’ll send you over a website that you can check out after you listen to the call. (wait for their email address). Now the email I send will be coming from _______@ ______. _____ enjoy the call and I look forward to speaking with you again soon.


Capitalizing on cutting-edge technology, recruitment and sales 'motivation' phone messages are a BIG part of the program. You can learn some more from the Sizzle Calls Quick Guide.

You can also visit here to get in on one of Andy's calls (se habla espanol).

Now, you undoubtedly have questions, the first being, "How exactly do we make money at this?"

At Andy's personal Mangosteen Web portal, he explains the complete compensation plan.

But the 'Three-Step Plan' goes a step further, and this really is the ingenius part:


The Promise Co-op is an advertising program designed to attract high quality, well qualified prospects for your home-based business. Here is how it works. Our members buy shares in the Promise Co-op. The shares cost $105 dollars each. You can buy anywhere from one to five shares per month. Each share will receive leads that come in from the advertising. This is done on a rotational basis. As leads come in they are assigned to the next share position on the rotation. After it has made a full rotation or cycle of all of the shares, the rotational system will start back at the beginning...

Here is how the lead development works. People hear our ads on the radio or see one of our advertisements. (Most hear it on the radio) If they have an interest they either call a toll free number given on the ad or go to our advertised website. If they call the phone number they will hear a phone message that gives them a short preview of our system. If they go to our website they will see the same message in print. (If you would like to hear this message dial 618 355 1774 and press option one.)

What is great about the program is that the leads are all responding to the advertising that they may have heard or seen usually several times. They normally know exactly why they are calling and only call because they want to learn more about developing a home-based business. This makes them a much more productive and enjoyable lead to work with.

The reason home-based business builders buy shares in the Promise Co-op is not because of how many leads they receive every month but because of how many distributors they sign-up from the advertising. Many of our members tell us they sign-up more distributors with less work than any other lead generating program they have used.

You need to understand, when you join the Promise Co-op you are not buying leads, you are buying a share in an advertising campaign. The leads come as a result of the advertising. You get your share of the leads that come in. Promise Co-op and the Willoughbys make no guarantee of the number of leads you will receive per share. Any month the number of leads received per share may go up or down according to the response that the advertising generates.


Andy's is not the only 'Three-Step Plan' but it appears to be the sole one targeting the 'Christian' market (just guessing here, but maybe the other fellas got the 'MLM diehards' (also here, foreign markets, and of course the health black market.)

Bottom line: Would you, or would you not, like the opportunity to get $300 over and over again?

Before you answer that one, I know you have another question just begging to be answered by me: "Johnny, buddy, what in the Sam Hill is a 'mangosteen'?"

I'm glad you asked. The essence of the product is the magical secret of the mangosteen: Xanthones.

(If you want more information on the incredible mangosteen fruit, I think I'll let you find that yourself. Google, and ye shall find. Also, here.)

Regarding the business model, people of good will can disagree:


The three step plan is incredibly difficult to get any information out of. They do not tell you what the business is until they have all your information and bother you. If it is a legitimate business, why are they not upfront with what they do?

More disagreement here.

What is not arguable, is the fact that Xango/Mangosteen/Three-Step Plan is BIG BUSINESS.

If there is money to be made in it, then it has a Convention. You can take that to the bank.

The Xango Convention, in fact, sounds like a real hummdinger. Andy recently had a starring role:


Andy Willoughby started things out for the Convention’s final General Session by asking how many distributors felt they were coming to XanGo after being in abused network marketing relationships. As hands were raised, he laid the hammer down.

"XanGo is no halfway house, folks! It’s the whole enchilada."

And, by that, it means a lot of things. Like XanGo Distributor Communication Manager Dave Webb dancing badly, for example. It means 200K and 500K Premiers were recognized while dancing to "YMCA". Senior VP of New Business Development Beverly Hollister talked about the Japan office opening in March of next year; she said she could see a day two years from now when thousands of Japanese distributors would be coming to Convention.


Furthermore: If there is money to be made in it, then it has an association:

Distributors Rights Association (DRA): DRA Advocates for the Rights and Empowers Members (both Companies and Independent Representatives) in Multi-Level Marketing.

(Andy was the DRA 2004 Executive Director of Publicity).

And without fail, if there is money to be made in it, then there will be legal problems that an association needs to address.

The final question you may be asking is, "What is the religious connection with all of this?"

Xango is based in Utah, where the Mormons are based. Network marketing seems to have found a natural home among the Mormon church - and even if your 'Christian' orientation is not of the Mormon variety, the lessons probably apply across the board.

The Mormons may be a bit ahead of the curve in discerning the potential for exploitation in church culture:


At the Economic Crimes Summit Conferences in 2002 and 2004 (sponsored by the National White Collar Crime Center), recruiting MLM's such as Nu Skin, Neways, Morinda, Usana, Melaleuca, Nikken, and Amway/Quixtar (all of which depend on aggressive recruitment for their growth and with pay plans that indirectly reward recruitment over direct sales of products), were among companies presented as examples of product-based pyramid schemes. These are gradually coming to be recognized as a growing class of white collar crime – i.e., fraud committed by otherwise respectable people. In fact, Utah leads the nation in concentration of "recruiting MLM's" – many headed up by Latter-day Saints!. (Commonly referred to as Mormons). We found the PDF to present a very interesting subject that we have been detecting as a pattern; mormons and Noni and MLM pyramid schemes appear to go hand in hand. The PDF also contains a chapter titled How could well-meaning Latter-day Saints initiate and promote MLM programs that deceive and exploit people?

Here is an investigation that might well apply to evangelical Christian groups, in the case of many sales opportunities including Xango:

(1) Because of the powerful networks of association within the priesthood and auxiliary organizations of the
Church and the high level of trust developed within these networks, MLM (a.k.a. "network marketing") is often promoted between members under pressure to build a "downline," to advance inthe hierarchy of participants.

(2) Later-day Saints, with an extraordinarily expansive view of families and of eternity, think big. Our own
scriptures speak of "worlds without number," of eternal families, and of infinite opportunity for eternal progression. So promises that may seem preposterous to others may seem plausible to some Latter-day Saints.

(3) In some ways multi-level endless chain programs resemble the greatest multi-level program in the world – the plan of salvation for families within the framework of the gospel of Jesus Christ. As Latter-day Saints, we place great emphasis on our genealogy, eternaly linking our ancestors in an unbroken patriarchal chain – analogous to an upline chain of participants. And our descendants or posterity are analogous to an MLM downline. In fact, MLM promoters often refer to their downline as their "genealogy." Conversely, I have heard family history researchers refer their ancestry as their "upline."

So MLM mirrors the plan of salvation – the one focusing on the salvation of souls, the other on money. One (the
gospel) focuses on eternal truths, while the other (MLM) is dependent on misrepresentations and deceit. One is an infinite program in God's infinite universe, the other an infinite program in a finite market of victims.


Word to the wise, Christian or otherwise.

More on MLM, here.

My biggest problem with the network marketing model applied to Christian congregations is the blatant hypocrisy it entails. Under the banner of God, we find a welcoming purchasing demographic.

Beware, something like this could be coming to a church near you.

Comments

To all who critisize Mr. Willoughby for being secretive, please understand he is not selling xango, as some would make you believe. But merely supplying the vessel by which to carry the message to get people to look at it and make their own decisions. Trust me I was extremely skeptical at first but I have signed on and I am starting to show some fruits for my labors, I am starting at the bottom and may not get rich however I do get satisfaction knowing that I am giving people the chance to experience what I believe to be a very wonderful and beneficial nutritional supplement.
just a passing comment by someone w/ more than a passing interest. one of the most common threads I see here involves the 'secrecy' etc invoved in getting to the root of the business. Having built a very successful business with another company in the past (a company that is no longer with us) I think that the answer is human nature. It is mans nature (in the US anyway) to doubt 1st and find reality later. Because there have been SO many companies that have come and gone over the years and so MANY folks who have spent time and money building businesses for companies that no longer exist, you will find MANY folks who hear the business concept, whatever name you choose, MLM, 1 on 1, network etc. and IMMEDIATELY close their ears and minds. My personal experience is that it really doesnt matter what the product is, OTHER than it be honest and beneficial. If you trust/respect your upline you have an opportunity to succeed. if you dont then you could be giving gold bullion away, and you would still find a way to fail. Like so many things, business outside your normal 9-5 is a thing that is easier NOT to do. So once the 'impetus' of $ gratification passes, what keeps you going? love honor and respect. but those are things that take TIME. Relationships are not built overnight, neither are successful businesses of ANY kind. just my 3 cts. j
I agree with David James. When I first heard Andy Willoughby's ads on Christian radio my thought was always, "What is the product?!" Some on this blog site have said that although the business sounds suspicious, you can make a honest liviing at it. Well, if I have to hide what my business product is, maybe it's because in my heart I know it's a scam. Yep, and I feel my blood boil every time I hear Willoughby's voice on the radio. Mr. Flanders is a good metaphor for him: a phoney baloney, plastic banana, good time holy-roller. Why would I be so angry? He's on the radio projecting that this is what all professing Christians are: smiling faces with hidden agendas. "Beautiful tombs, full of dead men's bones" as Christ once said. No, I don't know Mr. Willoughby nor anything but what I can gather from his commercials. But this I know: Christians are called to produce, not just make money, and the product should be something that benefits society. And if God is pleased with the product, why do I need to sneak around as though it were loathsome? I will look at this Xantho since it does sound like a real product. But Willoughby does it a dis-service by hiding what it is on the radio, on his web-site, and on the telephone. The appeal of the 3-Step Plan is to greed, not to one's contribution to society. It's focus is signing people up, not to a product. The product is inconsequential (gotta have it to be legal), and a mere formality. As a different MLM leader said, "I don't care if you bury the product in the backyard." Exactly. Who wants to be part of an organization like that? I don't. I'd rather mow lawns for $8.00/hr. In short, whether it is legit or not, I don't know. But since it feels illegitimate, more than likely it is. And I, for one, don't want to encourage others to promote something I can't feel proud to be a part of. And spare us family values angle. Mr. Willoughby's angle is an appeal to greed--nothing more. "3-Step Scam" is not too far from the truth. Ephesians 4:28 "He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need." Jeff Fosiemon
Hi David! Pyramid schemes are illegal. Xango is not a pyramid, nor a "scheme" of any kind. Any legit person involved can show you proof positive that in THIS marketing plan people below you can (and do) make lots more money than those above them (and the folks above them are all too happy to help them do it :-) My husband and I have been modestly involved for about 14 months, making a profit and growing our business at a comfortable rate. We'll not be at all surprised if this indeed makes us rich (or at least able to retire without financial stress). What is really funny is that we got into XanGo because I tried the product and it helped me. I wouldn't be without this product, whether or not I ever shared it with another person. I would have to be a very rotten soul to NOT tell others what is has done for me, though, and if I hadn't, I would not have found out what a great business opportunity XanGo is. It has helped us financially as well as physically, and we have in turn helped others who have found it does the same for them. It is always unwise to lump everything into a pile, David. Some MLM companies are crooked and they stink. XanGo is not one of them! Andy's 3 Step Plan is an advertising co-op way to locate potentially interested participants from a business perspective. It is not affiliated with the XanGo corporation, though it is a great asset to XanGo's members who choose to participate. I am trying to understand why you find the 3 Step ad approach somehow "sneaky"....It would be inappropriate for the 3 Step Plan ads to mention XanGo since they are not ADVERTISING XanGo, they are advertising an advertising cooperative (and corporate rules prevent the use of the XanGo name outside of specifically outlined usage, anyway!). Persons who respond to the 3 Step ads are told as soon as their message is replied to that the product involved is XanGo! Have you not responded personally to an ad yourself and found that out? I hope you do take the time to really check it out. You have nothing to lose but about 20 minutes of your time, and perhaps a great deal to gain. God bless you....with or without XanGo or the 3 Step Plan!
Andy Willoughby wrote: "We advertise for the same reason that McDonalds and Hallmark do, to find customers" Of course the difference is, when I see or hear an ad for McDonalds or Hallmark I don't have to wonder: "what in the world are they trying to sell me???" McDonalds and Hallmark don't try to hide the product they are selling in their ads. They also don't require me to "buy into" some "program" before they reveal that, oh yeah by the way, it's a pyramid scheme. Maybe Andy's analogy would have been more correct had he said: "We advertise for the same reason Enron did". Finally, what the glowing testimonials from the few people who DID make money from these Ponzi schemes ("we've built a huge downline of over 40,000 customers") always fail to mention is that THEY started at the TOP of the pyramid several YEARS ago when the idea was fresh and the suckers were naive and plentiful.
If the 3 step plan is honest why do I have to play detective to find out what the pig-in-a-poke is BEFORE I sign up with it?
I would like to comment on Andy's 3 Step Plan. My whole family is involved in Xango, from my parents to my children. We've built a HUGE downline of over 40,000 customers who love the product and wouldn't be without it. Out of those 40,000 we have many business builders, some of whom came onboard after hearing the ads on Christian radio. Network marketing is an easy way to move product these days, with the company doing most of the work and all the tracking. We don't sell anything, we just let people know about the product and the business, if they so desire. Our close rate for the radio co-op is very high, not possible without a stellar company and a product that is unique and desired by the masses. Thanks so much Andy! J. Dennis
Yes, it is XanGo. If you want to get the full picture follow all the links in the above post. There is more to it than the basic Amway-style, sell all your family and neighbors schtick, though. The additional factors make the marketing part of the project unique. If you read the couple messages from Andy, you'll probably come to the same conclusion I have: It's not for everyone, but an honest living can be made at it. I got interested in this topic because I happen to be interested in scams, which I thought this was. But I've changed my mind and I think it can be viewed as a legitimate business opportunity - for those who can do this type of work. Andy's site does a pretty good job detailing the "additional" factors (although I personally think he should tell more of the story at the outset). Thanks for writing!
so what is the product that drives the business income - XanGo ? If not - then what ?
I think South Park covered this better then The Simpsons. Andy is really an Underpants Gnome and his 3 step plan is. 1. Obtain All Underpants 2. ? 3. PROFIT!!!
Touche, Andy. If it is really you, you deserve a fair response which I think I have given in the latest post (see the sidebar, near the top, for the link). I don't care for the business, but that's just me. It may be right for others, and they should visit your site, instead of only reading mine, to make that determination.
Hi, how in the world are you anyway? Yeah, it's me. And I suppose I really am that folksy. I have to work hard not too address groups with comments like "Hi, folks". That is just me. Some people make fun of my folksy approach and I guess I deserve it. Maybe I turn off the really cool and sophisticated. The truth about me is that I try to be just what I sound like. I am not preacher, an angel or a super saint, but I am a born again Christian. I married my high school sweet heart 37 years ago, we get on each others nerves sometimes, but we still love each other. I have 3 grown children and 9 grand children that I spend a lot of time with. We just watched Bambi 2 this morning. I have a good credit rating but not as much savings as I should for a guy my age. I have never been in jail or accused of stealing and I have no criminal record, but I have gotten two speeding tickets this year. I love Starbucks, play bad golf and eat a lot of popcorn. I am not overweight or muscular. We advertise for the same reason that McDonalds and Hallmark do, to find customers. It also means that our members don't have to try to talk their friends or relatives into anything. We advertise on Christian radio because we can achieve two very important goals. Reach nice people with our advertising message and support Christian radio. We realize that some people don't like our advertising approach and assume they will not call. That's OK, nothing is for everyone. Besides if I used some really cool sophisticated approach and then people found out they had to work with folksy old Andy, they might be disappointed. At least this way, people know what they are getting ahead of time. We all don't have to be cool or the same or agree about everything. But I think we should be nice to each other. Most of our members have been with us for years. Since we have no long time contracts with our members and do not collect big upfront fees, I assume they would quit if they did not feel the 3-Step Plan was helping them. After many years in business, our program continues to grow. Not dramatically, but consistently. I hope that all goes well with you and your family and that your work gives you a sense of achievement and positive contribution to others. Sincerely Andy Willoughby
Well stated, JF. I've heard of other programs like this - it isn't just the political groups who salivate at the prospect of getting ahold of church directories.
Ouch. The MLM (like Excel long distance anybody?) makes all your friends, parishioners, blood relatives and so on, a target market. You have to EXPLOIT their basic trust in you to get their money. Churches and members fall for this because, the Christian's currency is a good reputation. These wolves, get us to trade on our currency to separate more people from their money. Soon, everyone is burned out and bitter. No one likes you or trusts you. You never cared for them. You just wanted their money. You squandered the currency that is God given to make Andy W. and Co. rich and famous. I hope you're happy afterwards. It is the Lord that makes you wealthy, not some mango juice and a deceiving tongue. "If you love me, feed my sheep." but instead, "Pretend like you love me, and get them to trust you then sell them some juice and get them to line up their families as well." - lovers of filthy lucre.
Hi Elyse, it is a jungle out there. Some people obviously thrive in the hard sales environment or it would not exist. And some succeed. The major downside to network marketing is you have to depend on getting more people involved and at some point the chain of participants will end. The other downside is you have to be selling all the time to everyone you can sell to (in other words, everyone you know). This creates a situation where it is not so much about having something people want to buy, but rather recruiting more sellers. Many people are not cut out for viewing the people in their lives as sales opportunities. It is interesting that this approach to business has gotten grafted onto religious networks. Thank you for visiting and writing. Good luck with finding a business proposition that fits your value system. They are out there. I think the more you focus on providing something truly useful people will pay for, the better success you will have.
Thank you so much for this information. I have been looking for a "real" online business opportunity and after hearing Andy's radio commercial so many times thought I might look into it. I believe the Holy Spirit lead me to type in his program name into the search engine and find your site with the truth. You saved at least one person from financial disappointment. Thank you!!
Hmm. That's an interesting and thought-provoking way to look at it, J.P. Thank you for visiting.
I too find this Andy Willoughby/Ned Flanders advertising scheme rather nauseating. But then, this should never come as a surprise to any Christian-wolves have always entered the flock to cull the weak.

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